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'It was abusive, for sure': Dave Ellefson discusses his relationship with Dave Mustaine

The former Megadeth bassist says he feels like 'I got kicked out of hell'

Megadeth just released their 16th studio album, The Sick, the Dying... And the Dead!, their first album of new material not to feature bassist Dave Ellefson since 2009’s Endgame.

Ellefson, whose tenure with Megadeth stretches back to their earliest days, was fired from the band during the sessions for The Sick, the Dying... And the Dead! after a controversial sexually explicit online affair he was involved in was made public; his bass parts were eventually re-recorded by Testament’s Steve Di Giorgio.

Mustaine has been publicly critical of Ellefson in the past, and now, in a new interview, Ellefson has stated that he believes his recent firing was due to years of resentment harbored by the Megadeth leader.

"I kind of saw the events of last year as just the perfect opportunity to choose box office over brotherhood," Ellefson told the 2020’d podcast (as transcribed by Blabbermouth). "I look back at it now and I feel like I got kicked out of hell. So, whatever."

As for his treatment by Mustaine, Ellefson said, "It was abusive, for sure. It was just abusive. It was unnecessary.

“Dave even said he had a resentment toward me that he couldn't let go, and I didn't know what it was."

Regarding Mustaine’s largely negative comments toward his original band, Metallica, in the press over the years, Ellefson said, "He's fighting with himself. He's in a game of tug of war with himself. I'm not fighting with him. I've just moved on. I remember we talked about that after he jammed with Metallica and the 'Big Four.' I said, 'How was that last night playing 'Am I Evil?'?' And he said, 'You know, those guys kicked me out of the band and they just moved on. I held on to the resentment for all these years.'

“It's like the same thing for me. It's, like, why is he resenting me? He got rid of me. Supposedly the problem should have gone away if he got rid of me. But the problem still seems to be there."

Ellefson continued, "Look, I think part of it, too, is he's obviously not gotten over this thing about being fired from Metallica, so he wanted to do to somebody else what he felt they did to him, which is kick him out and then someone else play his guitar parts. 'So let's kick Junior out and then have someone else play his bass parts.' And to me, I'm, like, I don't care. I already fucking helped put the record together. I played on the record. I got paid to be on the record. So, hey, if you wanna get someone else to play, whatever."