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Sammy Hagar recently sat down for a Van Halen-focused interview with Rolling Stone, and in addition to discussing his feelings about a potential tribute show or tour in honor of Eddie Van Halen, he also touched on several VH-adjacent topics.

One of which is the infamous 2002 Song for Song: The Heavyweight Champs of Rock ‘n’ Roll tour, which saw Hagar and David Lee Roth, both out of Van Halen at the time, team up for a co-headlining run around the U.S. Not surprisingly, the outing was marked by tension and bickering between the two singers, both in the press and behind the scenes.

According to Hagar, the goal of the tour was actually “to get Van Halen’s attention and get us both back in the band and do what was inevitable. A reunion tour with both of us would have been the biggest thing Van Halen ever did.”

But, he continued, it was not meant to be. “[It] didn’t work out that way because Dave doesn’t play well with others," Hagar said. "He just made a mess out of it. It could have ended with us both standing there with our arms in the air going, ‘Hey, good job, buddy. Let’s go talk to the [Van Halen] brothers.’ That was my intention, and it didn’t happen.”

When the interviewer mentioned that he recalled hearing stories that relations were so bad between Hagar and Roth that a wall was built backstage to separate the two singers, Hagar confirmed as much.

“Yes,” he said. “I think that’s production managers and tour managers getting in the middle of our bullshit. They made the wall since we nearly got into fisticuffs one night. The promoters were like, ‘Oh, we gotta keep these guys apart. This tour’s doing too good. We don’t want to see it break up because there’s some lawsuit.’ And so they put up a barricade between our dressing rooms.

“It was the wall that Trump wanted to build. It was so thin though. It was just a bunch of plywood on little stands. If you really wanted to get to somebody, you could just kick it down. I used to knock on the plywood to yell at David when I was getting ready to go on stage because we flip-flopped: He would open one night, I’d open the next. And when he had already played, I’d be beating on the thing and I would say, ‘Dave, I’m going on. Come on up in about an hour and we’ll play a couple tunes together.’ He wouldn’t even respond.”